Yo, is this your baby TPearl?

TESTIFY!

This bike wants to be something else, I feel.

It is what it is and it has a kind of Lo-Pro suggestion about it, but I cannot help but think that it wants to be something else.

Anyone else feel where I’m coming from?

@Dripper suggested about the Black&Blue; Lo Pro that that bike belonged on the front streets of Tokyo, and now that I look at this bike in depth, I can’t help but think it belongs on the back streets of Tokyo but that if it was there it wouldn’t really be genuine. It’d be like an apple pip in an orange.

I guess I’m saying it’s true character is kinda fake or hidden behnd what it truly is. If that makes sense?

PANASONIC NJS…? Nah, it’s still a little fruity or shifty for my tastes and I’m regarded by some as a very much a Bike Psychologist.

So what to say, whilst still being positive and honest since I have felt the need to comment?

Simply this: The owner from United states has seen something which really wasn’t there and tried to reproduce it in this bike representation. As such, I conclude - without wanting to hurt his/her feelings - that the masquerade party is over and the dye has been set.

Therefore; this bike is not as stated to be the PANASONIC NJS, but instead it is the TANGE PRESTIGE. In so far as my assessment is stated I do believe that it may be just that the labelling was misrepresented or incorrectly attached and that the TANGE PRESTIGE is very much a bike from the back streets of Tokyo or New York and as such is the orange and black representation we see and admire.

Thank you for allowing me to comment. I am a new member and hope to bring out the true charcter of each bike I feel needs a comment in the future.

Dr Cycle hopes to submit his cycle in the coming weeks and I sincerely hope that it recives the same in-depth scrutiny I have formed of the TANGE PRESTIGE, aka PANASONIC NJS.

P.S. This site is great. I’m from Sydeny too. If anything I would add a forum section for general talk.

I’m confused….

I think you’re on to something with this bike.

“Tange Prestige” is a much more suitable name-description for it than that given by the builder.

Like a book title, the name given to a bike can do so much to describe what it truly is.

@Tpearl.

Nothing to be confused about.

I would only suggest that a more appropriate name for this ride of yours is Fixed Gear bike, TANGE PRESTIGE. That is what the bike has told me, in my scrutiny of it. It wants to be named like this in order for it to belong properly.

Just a suggestion…

But why?

It’s a Panasonic frame made from Tange prestige.  Am I missing something? Regardless, what’s in a name?

How would you react to this build if it was without a description? After all, this is about a bike, not a name.

Hmmm…

You strike me as someone with little imagination. Sorry to say. I certainly don’t hold it against you.

Every builder who builds a bicycle - in my view - is seeking to make something truly original or unique. In Western culture it is common to attribute names to things we lovingly create and put effort into. We do this to bring out our character in the thing which is represented as our individual build.

Bikes speak to me when I look at them. If there was no description to this bike (a good question, by the way) I would say that it would be as yet an unfinished bicycle being built by you.

For just like the writer who writes a book, he is not finished until he has attributed a title. A name to suggest the story within. It is always the writer’s perogative which title he chooses, but he can entertain offerings from those he trusts who have read his work

I am merely suggesting that this bike will reflect itself more appropriately to the people you show it too, by being named differently. This bicycle of yours, this creation of your’s will belong and exist better in this other name I have offerred. I make it only as a suggestion, not to attack you or seek to be negative.

I don’t know you, I only see the bike and the parts you used on it. The bike suggest to me this other name is more appropriate as there’s a lot in a name. So much in a name that a certain name can set the setting for something completely different. Like where this bike of your’s truly belongs.

Right now it’s belonging on this forum with our discussion of it, and the merits of changing its name. In order to make it truly belong where it should be seen and admired by others.

Do you name your pets?

How about the personalised number plate you have on your car?

Names are important. They tell a story.

Not sure what he is smoking but Dripper and Dr Cycle seem to be the one person. Lets try and keep the comments real guys.

EDIT: Dr Cycle promises me that he is not Dripper. Amazing coincidence that they have been using the interweb in the same library a couple of times.

Thanks for your edit, Cam.

Dr Cycle and “dripper” are not the same person as I have maintained, no matter how amazing this coincidence appears.

Oh! and “dripper” may be smoking something, but I certainly do not smoke anything, nor take any other mind-altering drugs, and would urge others to give illicit drugs a wide berth. They’re not good.

I definitely appreciate the discussion my bike has generated, but I have to disagree with you regarding the importance of a name. 

First and foremost, the bike was built by myself for myself down to the wheelset.  I opted to run this Panasonic as my open ball, dry weather bike.  My other Ishiwata 019 sonic is my wet weather bike built with all sealed components.  Had I posted that bike under “Panasonic NJS Ishiwata 019”, would you have still said it had an identity issue? If I posted my Level under “Level Professional S. Matsuda”, would that bike too have an identity issue? No, because they’re names, nothing more.

My orange sonic is just that; a Panasonic made from Tange prestige, just like The Catcher In The Rye was a book written by J.D. Salinger.  It claims nothing about the integrity of the bicycle or what it was built for.  Let me also address that the name of my bike has nothing to do with my nationality, which you’ve mentioned twice already.

The poster of this build has great imagination when it comes to assembling a bike. Knowing him personally, I think he dreams about the bikes he wants to build, then wakes up, buys what he needs, and strips the rest of an existing build.

So far as naming a bike, not everyone feels the need to imbue a sense of… whatever… to it. The initial visual impression of a bike gives the most accurate description the owner is trying to impart. Only on a forum like this, where you can (and probably do) spend hours analyzing the bikes, does a name matter.

It’s not like he’s going to be shouting it out to all passers-by. Or hang a sign on it. Or a nameplate.

I know what you’re saying. That without the name, even the effort to name it here, on these forums, it’s just the material it’s wrought from. For the sake of further comments, I deem it, “The Japanese Halloween Killer.”